Roulette Computers: Facts Vs Fiction

There’s an incredible amount of nonsense written about roulette computers, mostly from dishonest roulette computer sellers. Some is written by people trying to get traffic to promote online casinos, although they’ve never even seen a roulette computer. It’s easy to find interesting but inaccurate articles, and hard to find the truth. This website has everything you need, including ways to verify facts for yourself.

Roulette Computers
Some of the roulette computers sent to me by unsatisfied buyers. Each of these use similar algorithms that do well on old and worn wheels, but have very poor accuracy on modern wheels that are in good condition.

What Are Roulette Computers?

Roulette computers are hidden electronic devices that predict where the ball will land to win at roulette. Basically they measure the speed and deceleration of the wheel and ball to predict the winning number. They can be built into many electronic devices such as mobile phones.

The image at the top of this page shows some of the computers I was sent by purchasers. After all, one way of knowing if a roulette computers is effective is by purchasing it yourself. And that’s exactly what many serious players do, although it’s an expensive way to go. If you visit me in person I can show you these and other devices.

How Do They Work?

For a roulette computer to predict the winning number, it must know the ball and wheel speed. The speeds are usually calculated by the player clicking a hidden button each time the ball and green zero pass a reference point on the wheel.

For example, if the player was measuring the wheel speed, they’d click the hidden button when the green zero is at a particular diamond (metal ball deflector). Then they’d wait for the wheel to complete a full revolution, and click the button again when zero comes around to the same diamond. This would give the roulette computer a wheel (rotor) timing of something like 3000ms (3 seconds for a revolution). The same is usually done for the ball. And multiple revolutions can be timed to reduce errors and improve accuracy. So basically you just click a hidden button as the wheel and ball go around, until the computer gives a prediction.

The predicted number can be sent to the player with a variety of methods. The simplest for the player is with a hidden wireless earpiece, such as the one in the image below.

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The wireless earpieces are most popular, but the player can also be told where to bet with discrete vibrations. For example, the roulette computer may vibrate when the predicted number passes a particular diamond. Or perhaps the vibration may occur when the ball is above the predicted number.

Do They Work In Modern Casinos?

The best page to answer this question is at http://www.roulettephysics.com/do-roulette-computers-work-today/. But basically YES they still work today, and very well. Assuming the roulette computer can accurately predict, the only real limitation to what you win is how well you avoid detection. Because if casino staff suspect you of using a computer, they’ll do something to stop you one way or another.

Whether or not the computer is effective depends on the computer’s design, and the wheel you play on. It is very easy to create a simplistic computer that only beats easily beaten wheels. And easily beaten wheels are what you see in the demonstration videos provided by roulette computer sellers. But it takes a trained eye and analysis to recognize the difference between an easily beaten wheel, and one that’s more like modern wheels in real casinos.

How To Know If A Wheel Is Easily Beaten

There are many variables that determine how easily a wheel can be beaten, if at all. Generally there are two main types of wheels that roulette computer sellers refer to. These are “titled” and “level” wheels.

Simply a “titled” wheel means the wheel may not be on a completely level table, so the ball may fall from the ball track at some points more than others. The result is the ball will hit specific metal deflectors (diamonds) more than others. This creates a “dominant diamond”. So if you charted which diamond the ball hit, your chart may look like below:

Dominant diamond hit chart from roulettephysics.com
Dominant diamond hit chart from Roulettephysics.com

Alternatively, the ball may hit each diamond just as often as others. This is called a “level” wheel.

An un-level surface is only part of what may cause a “dominant diamond”. In fact, the primary cause of dominant diamonds is ball track imperfections. For example, because of where the dealer releases the ball, the ball track may become more worn at some parts. The resulting effect is the ball will come off the ball track and fall at some points more than others. And if you know where the ball will at least fall most of the time, you have the beginnings of a strong advantage. If the ball didn’t bounce, then all you’d need to know is the number under the dominant diamond at the approximate time the ball will fall. And it’s really quite easy to know this with reasonable accuracy, especially if you know the approximate speed and deceleration rate of the ball.

How Many Wheels Have Dominant Diamonds?

Almost every wheel has a significant dominant diamond. You can check this for yourself at your local casino. So why aren’t all wheels very easy to beat? This is for a few reasons, with the main being the ball will still bounce unpredictably. Only advanced computers are able to solve this problem.

See our Roulette Computer being publicly demonstrated, with a 93% win rate betting 15 numbers on a modern wheel with bouncy ball – that’s a win on almost every spin and in difficult conditions:

A video recording of a different public demonstration below:

This was a live webcam demo conducted on 31st January 2013. Predictions were about 15 seconds before the ball falls on a modern Mk7 Huxley wheel. An edge of +28% was achieved, which enormous considering the normal edge against players is just -2.7%. Anyone can attend my live demonstrations, but only players with actual intent to purchase see demonstrations exhibiting the full capabilities of my technology.

Are Roulette Computers Legal?

Every jurisdictions has different laws. Contrary to popular belief, application of these devices are actually legal in approximately half of jurisdictions. This is because most laws only state that the spin outcomes can not be influenced, but nothing is said about merely “predicting” spin outcomes.

Regardless of them being mostly legal, no casino will tolerate them. A casino is private property and a casino can ask you to leave for any reason. This is why roulette computers are used covertly.

If you want a list of no-nonsense approaches that beat roulette, see this article (click here), which includes a free roulette system that works.

Warning About Roulette Computer Scams

Anyone with basic electronics knowledge can develop a simplistic roulette computer for $50, create a website to sell it, and call it the best roulette computer money can buy. There are several device you can buy, but most are either scams or are ineffective on modern wheels. Nevertheless, of course the vendor will claim their product is best, so you must do proper research. The best way for you to understand which device is best is to understand how they work, and what each device does and why. This site thoroughly explains everything you need to know.

Once you have read and understood all material on this site, you you can decide for yourself. You can also see the roulette computer comparison chart.

Do The Casino Staff Ever See The Roulette Computer?

The devices are concealed and operated with a hidden switch – competent application is completely invisible. Again no casino will tolerate consistent winning if a professional player is noticed. However, it is in fact quite easy to earn a substantial income, without the casino ever knowing you are using a roulette computer.

Although its not to say it wont happen one day, none of our players have ever been caught using our devices. This is simply because they use extremely sophisticated hardware that makes them invisible to electronic casino surveillance technology. Upon receiving and testing the computer, you’ll quickly learn what you win is not a matter of what is “possible” – it’s more a matter of remaining undetected, because if you are detected, you may be banned from the casino. However, the idea is to earn relatively modest amounts, and to spread winnings across multiple casinos, to avoid detection. How to avoid detection is a large part of what we teach you.

The Hybrid and Uber versions can be applied at some online casinos. However, online casinos are more sensitive to large wins than regular casinos, so they tend to quickly start calling no more bets before the ball is released. After some large wins, some online casinos now call no more bets before the ball release. So we don advise purchasing a roulette computer only for online application. If you only want to play online, I recommend the JAA system at roulettephysics.com. You can also see a suggested roulette strategy for online casinos here.

Do All Computers Beat Modern Wheels?

Beating modern roulette wheels requires more than simplistic technology. Roulette wheel designs have changed, and beating them is far more complicated. Some unscrupulous sellers knowingly sell ineffective devices that only beat older wheels.

As with most things, you get what you pay for. Some devices can indeed earn you a sizable income, but most only ensure you lose your bankroll while getting you caught. In addition to developing our own technology, we have acquired numerous other devices only to find they did not live up to the vendor’s claims. In this sense, buying such a device is no different to buying a roulette system or strategy – most are simply ineffective and the seller is blatantly dishonest. When considering purchasing such devices, great care should be taken, and never rely on a vendor’s word alone about either their own device, or that of competitors.

Free Roulette Tips

See free professional roulette tips here. The tips are divided into sections based on player experience.

Roulette Computer Scams
Warning about scams

There are numerous roulette computer scams, so you must thoroughly research devices before purchasing. Also see reviews of roulette systems and strategies. The dishonesty of some sellers is relentless so you cannot simply believe what anyone publishes, either about their own products or others. The best proof you can get is in-person demonstrations. See Roulette Computer Scam warnings and http://www.roulettesystemreviews.com/mark-howe-predictroulette/ – You should see a personal demo in realistic casino conditions when possible, although even this doesn’t guarantee the computer will meet expectations because an inexperienced witness can be misled with “technical talk”. If you are scammed, be sure to report it.

About Me

It’s important to understand who I am and my experience with roulette computers, so know I have proper experience.

I’ve been developing roulette computers for approximately 10 years. I’ve developed approximately 15 different versions. Some are simplistic devices that can be hidden in watches or even pens. And some use a hidden camera and image recognition to automatically predict the winning number.

To my knowledge, I’m the only developer to have created an automated roulette computer that uses a hidden camera. More about this computer is at www.hybridroulettecomputer.com. It is very, very different technology to a roulette computer you’d buy for $500 or so.

How Do You Know This Website Tells The Truth?

Gambling system sellers are notoriously dishonest. They’ll say anything to get you to buy. If you believe everything you read, you’ll be very easily misled. Here’s my advice so you can know the truth for yourself:

Proof doesn’t get any better than the above. And the other option is do lots of research. But the problem is the truth is buried beneath tonnes of rubbish. And you’ll find the information confusing and overwhelming. But if this is what you prefer, my advice is:

  • Never rely on word alone. Anyone can make any claim about anything or anyone. Investigate claims and you’ll easily reveal deception. And if people lie about small things, chances are they’ll lie about important matters.
  • Don’t believe posts on message boards: Fake reviews and impersonating customers of competitors is a common tactic of dishonest sellers.
  • Consider the motives of people who publish information. Obviously a seller may not be honest about a competitor.
  • If you only consider big headlines, you wont see the real story. But dig a little deeper and you’ll understand how factual information has been twisted to manipulate you. And this will show you more about the person who tried to mislead you.

 

51 Responses to Roulette Computers: Facts Vs Fiction

  1. playing in the visual ballistics results are better than your computer Uber …. So what’s the point then buy it??

  2. Steve, I’m good at using VB and I know what I’m saying. I tried out the VB method on all your videos, so here I am with VB is determined more accurately hit the ball in the sector, what do you define by svoe.Na site you explain the VB. But this is a very simple and basic method for real casino he certainly (such wheels are very rare), so how do you explain the game on one contact.

  3. Serg, you dont have the Uber so you arent in position to compare. If you are familiar with vb, then you’d know you basically determine the reference number with the same number of revolutions to go, then the end number and compare distance.

    Firstly, keep in mind there are different types of roulette computers. If you want the bare essentials like what vb does, then you can opt for the basic or lite versions I offer. Or even foresters computer. They have much the same accuracy as VB. Yes with those options, it is more difficult to find suitable wheels as I say often. That’s why I give VB and my basic computer for free.

    The uber versions are $15,000-$30,000, and the hybrid is $80,000. You get what you pay for. You cannot possibly replicate what these computers do using VB. Again you havent read the sites I’ve given.

    The uber and hybrid computers automatically adjust for ball deceleration rate changes, can target specific diamond hits properly, and can even properly adjust to varying ball bounce on different rotor speeds. Nothing else anywhere does this.

    If you want to know the differences between computers even from different vendors, and VB, then first read my sites then visit me personally. Its the best way for you to know fact from fiction. I have every other computer and you can see for yourself. And you can use whatever vb you like and better understand the differences and why the prices are as such.

  4. Steve, I do not use a simple VB … My method is a more in-depth VB … that what you teach on the site, in fact, is very basic VB method is designed for a contact (such wheels hardly find). By a letter, I would like to show that VB-depth method is not inferior to computers and even surpasses exactly your Uber and all other known me … watching all your videos, I have a better result than your predictions …. Basically all video you with the ball ivory, which gives you an advantage in the rates (14-15 seconds), as a heavy ball and later left the track and time for the stakes are much higher than Teflon ball, the speed of the roulette you have a very small, and if you play the casino, he should know that the speed of the roulette in a real casino is much higher and the ball bolle easily and quickly leaves the track, which means less time for rates …. your roulette is easy to predict … I’m sorry … but it is. .. nothing personal …

  5. Serg, I don’t take your lack of understanding personally. What I explain here is just correct you. So please don’t take it the wrong way.

    You don’t have my roulette computer, so you aren’t in position to evaluate it. I don’t have your VB technique, so I’m not able to evaluate it either. But for all VB methods, the following is true:

    * VB is a non-electronic version of roulette computers. Roulette computers can be accurate to within 1-5ms by clocking multiple revolutions (or sooner with the Hybrid version). You cannot possibly achieve anywhere near that accuracy with VB (without a computer). So this point alone makes your claim appear dubious.

    * “Most” roulette computers only consider the approximate ball drop time (revolutions to go). VB is exactly the same. So when it comes to knowing how many revolutions remain for the ball, my BASIC version computer is just as accurate as a skilled VB player. Remember, I give my BASIC computer version for free to genuinewinner.com players.

    * When considering any event on the wheel, if you don’t use electronic timers, the best accuracy you can hope for is about 100ms (0.1s) if you were very skilled. Now consider a 100ms variation on rotor speed (3000 or 3100ms) will mean the difference between the prediction being over 180 degrees the difference. Put into simpler terms, a slight error in your judgement will make a big difference.

    Can you tell the difference between 3000ms, 3025ms, 3050ms or 3100ms without electronic timers? No unless you’re superman. But a computer easily knows the difference.

    So just considering the rotor alone, a VB player is at a huge disadvantage and has already lost a lot of the potential accuracy. There is no way around this. A correctly designed roulette computer will always obtain much more accurate timings. Again this is for the rotor, not the ball.

    * Most of my videos apply a more basic approach than what the computers are capable of. The only way to see the full capabilities are to visit me for a personal demo. Why? Because publicly showing all casinos what my computers can do is not a good idea. Serious players visit me personally to see everything. But see the video that shows the computer’s ability to know which diamond the ball will hit (in videos section). This greatly reduces ball scatter, and requires accuracy of ball timings to around 5ms. No human can calculate ball speed within accuracy of 5ms, so no VB method is capable of limiting scatter this way, and therefore no VB method can be more accurate than the Uber version computer. If you claim otherwise, you are saying you can be accurate to within 5ms without a computer, which is nonsense.

    Do you need to target specific diamond hits? With modern wheels in good condition, yes. If you don’t, the scatter is too unpredictable.

    To accurately predict which diamond will be hit requires a combination of variables that all affect each other, and the Uber and Hybrid devices are the only roulette computers that have ever done this. You are welcome to visit me with any other device or your VB to compare for yourself.

    * For many wheels, the speed of the rotor will greatly change how the ball will bounce. This means the typical scatter chart is obsolete and leads to ‘random’ (no) accuracy. But the effect the rotor speed has on ball bounce is not linear. That means a faster rotor does not simply mean the ball will bounce a further distance. A more complex analysis is required to isolate variables where scatter is most predictable, and where the ball is most likely to bounce to. To obtain this data, first you need to have accurate rotor timings. But as shown above, with VB you don’t have that accuracy so you already fail. Even if you had the accuracy, you’d need to write various data down including adjustments for the variation of ball deceleration, the rotor speed at the time the ball hit the rotor, the variation of ball deceleration, the rotor strike point, and the scatter. Then on each spin, you need to calculate rotor speed at the time of ball fall, and determine the complex relationships to get a prediction, then bet all while not looking suspicious. Can you do this without a computer? No chance. The Uber does it all automatically.

    * The ball deceleration rate inevitably gradually changes over time. The changes are often quite subtle and cannot be noticed by any visual method. For example, throughout your collection of 30 or so spins, the ball deceleration rate has been gradually changing. By the end of the 30 spins, the ball is travelling, on average, 0.72 more revolutions. You wouldn’t know that because to you, it just looks like the ball seems to have had a few unlucky diamond hits and falls.

    Maybe your experience with roulette computers is with basic ones provided by other vendors that use the basic algorithm from visual ballistics, as explained at http://www.roulettecomputers.com/the-math/ – most computers use this. One other developer at least tries to do more but he keeps changing his approach because the main algorithm that gradually adjusts ball deceleration rates is wrong, and based on the original algorithm. Only dynamic polynomials can be used. The result of only using the basic algorithm is accuracy no better than VB, my Lite computer, and my Basic computer. The Uber and Hybrid versions are quite different. That’s why some of my computers are free, and others cost $80,000. You get what you pay for.

    Regarding my VB course, as explained on my site, it is free because I find VB a comparative waste of time. If you are going to bet after the ball is released, then just use a computer and you’ll do far better with minimal effort. I give that VB away free more as a free trial for professional methods, and a comparison chart of it and the genuinewinner system is at http://www.genuinewinner.com/#compare

    Sure there are more advanced VB methods and I teach them too upon request. But they are very difficult to apply, and for a lot of effort and training, still the best you can hope for is only equalling the accuracy of my BASIC version computer. Why? Because the basic computer perfectly determines last revolution timing, but can only get rotor timings as accurate as a highly skilled VB player. So the average “basic computer” user = a highly skilled VB player.

    The next step up in accuracy is the Lite computer. It can have two users with covert wireless signals, can get predictions anytime in the spin, and properly calculates rotor distance. So it is about the equivalent of a superman VB player using an incredible technique that normal people cannot use.

    But as an approximate comparison, most roulette computers are around the Lite computer level as explained at http://www.roulettecomputers.com/comparison.htm which has a lot of data for you to check.

    Specifically the basic computer was designed to be a stepping stone to the lite computer. And the lite computer is the stepping stone to the Uber. The lite computer was specifically designed to be slightly better than an computer than other vendors with respect to getting earlier predictions, using much more covert wireless for team play, and ultimately giving the player a greater earning capacity. But the lite and basic computers still use the basic kind of algorithm. The Uber and Hybrid are very different. Again see the comparison page.

    A few other corrections:

    * Ivorine balls are far bouncier than teflon balls. Teflon gives a much more predictable ball bounce. A simple test is drop them both from the same height. Proof enough for anyone.

    * Ivorine balls travel a further distance and the deceleration rate is more gradual. This makes it more difficult to differentiate one revolution from another, which makes accurate predictions more difficult.

    Ivorine balls are harder to beat for the above two reasons, which is why I use them in most of my demos.

    * The rotor speed used in my demos is average. In some parts of the world, 2-3 seconds/revolution is normal, but in other parts, 4-5s/revolution is normal. In some parts like Japan even, 8-9s/revolution is normal.

    * For you to achieve better results in my videos with your VB technique, even just the videos with only a basic approach from the computers, you are saying you can accurately tell the difference between a 3000ms, or 3025ms or 3040ms rotor. That’s plain nonsense. And if you are talking about the video demonstrating diamond hit predictions, then you are saying you can accurately detect a 5ms difference in ball speed PLUS the difference in rotor speed. Sorry but its simply not possible. It is difficult enough for an electronic device to do it, and there’s no way a human can do it.

    Again I’m not offended by your lack of understanding, and please don’t take the corrections the wrong way. I’m open to the fact we all never stop learning, and I don’t profess to know everything. But in this case I’m sorry you have made various mistakes. The information is available for you to review.

    Unfortunately I don’t have the time to debate further about this and you won’t convince me that 1 + 1 = 5. Nevertheless if you want to know fact from fiction, I suggest just visit me personally, then you can compare your VB method against my Uber or Hybrid computers (testing on live spins).

  6. Steve, I use the in-game timer with vibration … that after a certain amount of time gives me an accurate signal to the arm he has a built-in mobile phone … so to measure the speed of the rotor I have no problems … as to the accuracy. .. that would prove my VB method is better in accuracy of any computer (including yours) I would like to exeperimental … if you have the opportunity to put the video games on the roulette ball with ivory or Teflon, but just cut them (which I did not know the number of remaining turns and drop the ball), you can follow any responses to send any number of games … and about 10-15 games is not full circumcision to adapt my method to speed and slow down the ball and rebound … and so it’s just words that nothing confirmed …. my e-mail you know, if you choose to go on this exeperimental … write … agree with you … about your video where you predict what a diamond in the fall … in my method I use the overlap rates … and he is not inferior to the computer …

  7. Steve, regarding the measurement of the speed of the rotor … I use a timer with vibration … I created it … Programmer signal are vibrating pulse in the arm …. so no problems with accuracy … as to the accuracy of hits … I am ready to prove that my method is superior to currently existing computers for accuracy (including and Uber) … you can follow any responses to spin the roulette and video clip recent momentum of the ball to hit it well (I will not know how much is left turns and hitting the ball) … and do not trim the spin 10-15 (whole) to adapt to the speed of the rotor and slow the ball … and bounce … you will see that I’m right … it’s not just words …

  8. Serg, if you use a “timer with vibration”, then it is an electronic device. In order of most simplistic to most complex, the available devices are:

    1. Thumper (timer with vibration): as simple as it gets, but can be used in many different ways.

    2. Basic roulette computer: allows you to get accurate estimations of ball revolutions remaining, and it also uses timed pulses like thumper. About half of the computers from other vendors are similar in accuracy to this.

    3. Lite roulette computer: accurately measures ball and rotor speed, and gives the equivalent accuracy of perfectly applied complex visual ballistics techniques that are too impractical for normal people. Again the lite computer = highly skilled VB player, but the lite computer does it with ease.

    4. Uber roulette computer: adjusts for ball deceleration variation, non-linear ball bounce on different rotor speed and much more. It does everything worthwhile that can be done.

    5. The hybrid roulette computer: much the same as the uber computer, except it does all the speed measurements automatically. It does not need rest, and the players dont even nee to look at the wheel to get timings.

    Again see http://www.roulettecomputers.com/comparison.htm

    You are saying your VB method combined with a “thumper” is more accurate than my Uber computer.

    Yes a thumper with VB is better than VB without a thumper. But even with a thumper, you cannot possibly accurate to around 1-5ms as you can with the Uber and Hybrid. And you cannot properly analyze the non-linear ball scatter on different rotor speeds with pencil and paper. You also cannot possibly know the true effect of ball deceleration rate changes without the 1-5ms required accuracy for timings. And because of all this, there is no way any VB and/or thumper combination can be more accurate than the Uber/Hybrid computers. At best, you will only around equal the Lite roulette computer.

    I’m not sure why you are trying to convince me otherwise. You ask me for the first part of 10-15 spins to test. The problems with this are:

    * 10-15 spins is not enough to produce any meaningful results. You would need 30-60 spins. With only 10-15 spins, the only thing you could demonstrate is that you can identify the approximately number under the dominant diamond when the ball is in its last revolution. And this can be done with or without a thumper, although of course with a thumper and good techniques, you will do better than a person without a thumper. But still, you wont do any better than a simple computer like the lite version.

    * Any such testing would need to be live, without the ability to carefully examine footage or try again.

    I have no reason to doubt you can at least equal the accuracy of my lite computer. But considering you are using a thumper, and the sheer number of variables you need to consider for optimal accuracy (that only the Uber/Hybrid do), there is no way you could do better than the Uber or Hybrid versions.

    Again if you still believe otherwise and want to prove 20 years of experience and hundreds of thousands of dollars for development was for nothing, please visit me personally and test over live spins.